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Tuesday Smackdown: Crit Partners–Harbingers of Death or Angels in Disguise

{ Posted by April Morelock on Sep 08 2009 }
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Crit partners. We discussed the better side of it but I want to talk about bad crit partners this week… so we can all have a jam sesson on the good and the bad side of critting. I was late getting this up so Kendal is going to post in comments. I’m also sick as a dog, so this might not be as coherent as usual ( if it’s more coherent, I think I need to start drinking and doing drugs to up my writing prowess because I’m pretty souped up on all kinds of stuff right now).

Down to the business at hand–the tough dirt on crit partners. I don’t know about you but for me there’s a tense moment when I hand over my baby to the first set of eyes. Will they see the wonder and beauty of what I’ve created? Will they treat it with respect and some kindness and help me nurse it and nurture it into the mature being I envision?

Or will they rip my poor baby to shreds, detailing with agonizing coldness all of her flaws and misproportions. Will they rip out her beautiful golden-brown hair and throw a raven wig to cover the scars now marring her perfection? Will they suggest brown eyes instead of blue… will they shred her beautiful skin with their great rasping claws and steal the very heart and soul of my own flesh and blood creation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will they…

Oh, sorry. Got a bit caught up in the imagery ( you should have seen the entrails and beating heart and heard my whimpering cries) but let’s get real. That’s sometimes what it feels like when you get a particularly harsh, waspish crit partner.

Yet some of the best crit partners that I’ve ever had were hard. I mean battle-hardened, no-holds-barred, we’re whipping you into shape, no matter the pain, crit partners. These pros can hand you your butt on a platter and you’ll thank them for it.

So what makes the difference in a truly great, life-altering experience versus the grim reaper scenario?

I think it all comes from the attitude portrayed in the remarks and previous coversations, the tone of voice, the lack of sarcasm… so I’m developing a list of traits my Angels have and a list of traits the Harbinger’s of Death (GrimReapers) have:

Angels                                                                                                         

1. Ease you into harsh comments with friendly email ”Here are my comments. I went pretty deep and  some of
them may seem harsh but I wanted to give you the best to make this unique and marketable.”
2. Comments are to the point, without much sarcasm ”Pacing could move faster. Consider tightening these last
two pages.”
3. Little notes in margins when something just isn’t right “Um… why is she wearing a bra when it was thrown off two
paragraphs ago. And where’s the condom?”
4. Major criticisms come in the form of to the point comments and direction with additional notes of clarification like, “This whole chapter needs rethought. Things are happening too fast and out of sequence. I’ve added some additional notes. Can’t wait to see this rewritten. It’s a pivotal scene.”     
5. Comments give concrete help as to what is wrong  ”Not everyone has a foot fetish, maybe you need to beef this scene up a bit to bring us into this mindset?”

Grim Reapers

1. Email subject line: “Story crit… LOL… it’s bad”
2. Crude comments, “Only slugs move this slow.”
3. Little notes saying stuff like, “THIS SUCKS”
4. Major criticisms occur with track changes and a  complete rewrite of 2, 3, 5 pages with no note or anything useful as to where you went wrong (You really don’t want to see my take on the rewrite usually they suck and they completely miss what you’re trying to accomplish. Small rewrites are always welcome but I like the fundamental parts of my story to remain recognizable.
5. Comments are vague and maybe irrelevant,”UGH, toe jam. That’s gross. Major squick factor here.”

Of course, my list can go on and on. What about you? Do you have some absolute no-no’s when it comes to critting? When have you received what would undoubtedly be a harsh criticism but you didn’t feel that way because you honestly felt they were trying to help and were giving spot on advice?

I’m interested to hear what people like and dont’ like in a crit partner.

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8 Responses to “Tuesday Smackdown: Crit Partners–Harbingers of Death or Angels in Disguise”

  1. By Jeannie Lin on Sep 8, 2009 | Reply

    Sorry you had some grim reapers!
    For me, CPs are heaven sent. But I have to say, I don’t have bad CPs because I don’t promote bad commenters to CP status. There are my CPs and then there are the people that have read a couple pages of my manuscript. I’ve been lucky that the readers are really good too, but CPs hold a special place in my universe.

    Harshest comment I’ve gotten lately? “I’m not commenting too much here, because I know you’re going to change all this in rewrites” That was from one of my guardian angels!

  2. By Kate Pearce on Sep 8, 2009 | Reply

    I hate it when I see people crit for other people and they rewrite stuff for them. That is so not helpful 1) it makes the writer feel like crap 2) it doesn’t teach anything. I believe crits should be of the ’show not tell variety.

  3. By Gillian Archer on Sep 8, 2009 | Reply

    The worst critique comment I ever got was: Great, fantastic. Don’t change anything!

    Are you kidding me? In 15 pages there were no grammer errors, no head hopping, no you could go deeper here, etc.

    I ran quickly in the other direction from that crit group.

  4. By Rebecca March on Sep 8, 2009 | Reply

    I agree with Gillian. One of the worst crits I got was of the same fashion. I was thinking…did you even read it? But most of my CP’s have been Heaven Sent.

  5. By Catherine Spencer on Sep 8, 2009 | Reply

    Oh my goodness, we got Jeannie Lin commenting on our site.

    *faints*

    *comes to and blinks*

    I have a super-awesome CP who I under-utilize. Which will change as I get my act together. (Waves to Tara! I hope you are enjoying or did enjoy Amish country!) I got super lucky that I sort of randomly found someone insightful, intelligent, thoughtful, *and* patient, who is also a careful reader — AND we have much of the same taste in what we like in romance — AND I am in awe of her imaginative prowess in her own writing. She’s a pleasure to work with. Every writers should be so lucky.

  6. By April Morelock on Sep 9, 2009 | Reply

    Catherine… I’m in awe… Jeannie, Kate, Gillian… WOW… Love these women!

    I agree with so many of you, and I just saw one comment that has me groaning because I’ve done this one too many times (it’s not the great job comment… ) It’ amazing to think I could be someone’s worst nightmare as a critique partner but alas I’m sure that’s probably true.

    Jeanine–Good point… I’ve started sending just a chapter or a few pages to new crit partners so I can weed the good from the bad without getting in too deep with what I have to pay them back with… Honestly I could almost deal with a bad critter if they were a fantastic writer and I loved their stuff… but alas, that’s usually NOT the case.

    Kate, I love your crits… if I could bottle you up, we’d make a mint. Now how do you manage to say the right things to pull all the great stuff from out of me without using a lot of words. You just can get to the crux of the matter so quickly…

    Gillian, yeap… those crits stink. I’m glad you love it but surely you found something because Lordy knows I’m not that good.

    Rebecca, I’m glad you’ve had some great partners. Sometimes it’s the person and I might not be the easiest gal to get along with ;>

    Catherine, WAKE UP woman… get a grip on yourself. Where are the fainting salts around here… jeez… (Ignore my hopping up and down because Gillian, Jeanine, and Kate were here, commenting on MY blog post… SQWEEE… um, do I sound like a pig there. not very flattering)

    April

  7. By Jeannie Lin on Sep 9, 2009 | Reply

    Catherine & April: I actually really enjoy the smack downs on Romantic Inks. :)

  8. By Tara Cohen on Sep 11, 2009 | Reply

    Catherine, you make me blush. That’s a good CP, to give such good praise I feel obliged to push my limits. Our road trip has now taken us to Chicago. AND I repeat, nothing I read now will in any way catch my attention as your ms I’m hoping to read in a near future.

    Tara

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